Discussion - Your next Galaxy phone might get a "dream" battery, and I'm actually excited for it

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stferrari
stferrari
Arena Master
• 1w ago

I dont mean to be a Debbie downer but if I had a dollar for every time I heard solid state batteries are eminent, I would be at my local BMW dealer buying my new M4. I hope it happens soon but I am not holding my breath.

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p51d007
p51d007
Arena Master
• 1w ago

New tech, expensive...REALLY?

Once mass production kicks in, the price will come down.

Do YOU want to be the guinea pig when they first come along?

Remember when LCD & LED tv's came along and just the 33" ones

were thousands of dollars? Now look how inexpensive they are.

I'll stick with what is around now. My pixel 9 Pro XL, even with hard

use gets a day battery life (no games, just normal use). And I have

a wireless charger at the office and at home, so it's not to hard to charge

it up.


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notfair
notfair
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• 1w ago

nah, i will not pay more, either the price stays the same or goes down, if not, then gimme that lithium from congo, mined by kids.

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creativepx
creativepx
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• 1w ago

I'll believe it when I see it. I find it hard to believe that Samsung, which were hesitant to use a technology that other brands already tested on their behalf (si/c) will just jump in with a new untested technology like ssd batteries and sell it on their flagships right away. If they do, I'm curious how big those batteries will be, in terms of capacity. Because if we're talking a bump from 5000 mAh to 6000 mAh, then that's hardly compelling. And if they're bigger capacity, I'm sure Samsung will use this opportunity to price gouge the heck of their customers just because they finally get better battery life. If they added this technology and charged the same, it could be a game changer for Samsung but I doubt that'll be the case.

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creativepx
creativepx
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• 1w ago
↵notfair said:

nah, i will not pay more, either the price stays the same or goes down, if not, then gimme that lithium from congo, mined by kids.

As long as it's not mined by your kids, am I right?

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stferrari
stferrari
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• 1w agoedited
↵creativepx said:

I'll believe it when I see it. I find it hard to believe that Samsung, which were hesitant to use a technology that other brands already tested on their behalf (si/c) will just jump in with a new untested technology like ssd batteries and sell it on their flagships right away. If they do, I'm curious how big those batteries will be, in terms of capacity. Because if we're talking a bump from 5000 mAh to 6000 mAh, then that's hardly compelling. And if they're bigger capacity, I'm sure Samsung will use this opportunity to price gouge the heck of their customers just because they finally get better battery life. If they added this technology and charged the same, it could be a game changer for Samsung but I doubt that'll be the case.

First while I am skeptical of the time frame:

1. Samsung has been developing SSD technology for over a decade now along with several other renound battery manufacturers so its not exactly "untested ", its just not been economically reasonable.

2. SI/c does not solve the 5200 mah limit that US law shipping regulations impose since it is still a highly volatile battery technology.

3. Given Samsung has remained the #1 mobile sales leader with years old 5000 mah LI technology, i think moat people would love a bump to 6000 mah.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion and may not buy a Samsung based on said opinions but we in the US market I think would love the product. I very well grant I might be totally wrong and am still highly skeptical of the eminent release of affordable and functional SSD technology but one can hope.

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stferrari
stferrari
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• 1w agoedited
↵notfair said:

nah, i will not pay more, either the price stays the same or goes down, if not, then gimme that lithium from congo, mined by kids.

Well it is almost certain the price is not staying the same or going down not matter what the battery technology is. Only the Chinese manufacturers have cheap enough labor to help limit prices and they are, for the most part, a non starter in the US. Also i personality find your "mined by kid" comment offensive even if it was meant to be ironic.

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pepperpot_592
pepperpot_592
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• 1w ago
↵stferrari said:

I dont mean to be a Debbie downer but if I had a dollar for every time I heard solid state batteries are eminent, I would be at my local BMW dealer buying my new M4. I hope it happens soon but I am not holding my breath.

That may be the case, but you didn't hear it from Samsung SDI. That's the difference. Hold SDI to their timeline. As early as 2023, SDI announced a 2027 target. This executive confirms they are on track to meet their target.

These batteries are not replacing Samsung's current technology. BMW won't be putting them into an M4. The prismatic batteries will be used in BMW's high-end EVs and the pouch batteries will be used for physical AI applications.

I am confident Samsung will use these batteries in their micro mobile devices(rings, earbuds, watches, glasses etc.) because si/c is not flexible and it doesn't offer leaps in safety. I am no longer confident it will debut on the Ring 2.

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notfair
notfair
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• 1w ago
↵creativepx said:

As long as it's not mined by your kids, am I right?

I think you don’t understand sarcasm. Of course i don’t want children to be exploited at all.

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notfair
notfair
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• 1w ago
↵stferrari said:

Well it is almost certain the price is not staying the same or going down not matter what the battery technology is. Only the Chinese manufacturers have cheap enough labor to help limit prices and they are, for the most part, a non starter in the US. Also i personality find your "mined by kid" comment offensive even if it was meant to be ironic.

Sorry, it was ment to be ironic.

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