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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1mo ago
↵AltronLivez51 said:

So the pixel fold is wide. The purea x is wide. The Surface Duo was wide. apple copied someone else. Samsung is also simply doing the same.

I'm curious why you only raise your ugly head now!?

How many millions of times has Apple, copied, stolen, mimic and outright cloned stuff. Why don't you come around then.

The iPhone sets because other oems were already working on it. Apple just rushed to be 1st, knowing they gonna end up being last.

Apple didn't invent this style. They were not first. Actually Microsoft made this first.

The only thing u can thank apple for is taking eight years to finally make one.

"So the pixel fold is wide. The Huawei Pura X  is wide. The Surface Duo was wide."

Why did Samsung wait so long to adopt the wider aspect ratio? It’s clear they didn’t care about other manufacturers like Google or Huawei leading the way; they only prioritize Apple. Samsung knew that once Apple committed to a wider design, it would become the market standard, so they pivoted to match that strategy. We’ve seen this pattern before with the Watch Ultra and other design cues—Samsung has had seven years of experience with foldables, yet they only adopted this form factor once Apple’s plans leaked. You can argue about who had the tech in their parts bin, but the reality remains that Samsung is following Apple’s lead. It is time to stop being ignorant and biased and look at the reality in front of you. While any company can manufacture a product, the industry consistently follows Apple’s lead; if Apple hadn't committed to the wider foldable design, Samsung never would have adopted it for this generation. You can bank on that.
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Nokfan1603
Nokfan1603
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• 1mo ago
↵TuGa121 said:

Samsung should really be thanking Apple for this success. It’s a fact that if Apple hadn't signaled they were working on a book-style foldable, Samsung never would have adopted this wider aspect ratio. Despite releasing seven previous generations of foldables, Samsung avoided this design until Apple’s plans leaked—much like how they copied the Ultra watch and the edge trend to compete with the iPhone air. Once again, you're welcome, Samsung.

Thank you Apple. Thank you TuGaGa.

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AltronLivez51
AltronLivez51
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• 1mo ago
↵TuGa121 said:

"So the pixel fold is wide. The Huawei Pura X  is wide. The Surface Duo was wide."

Why did Samsung wait so long to adopt the wider aspect ratio? It’s clear they didn’t care about other manufacturers like Google or Huawei leading the way; they only prioritize Apple. Samsung knew that once Apple committed to a wider design, it would become the market standard, so they pivoted to match that strategy. We’ve seen this pattern before with the Watch Ultra and other design cues—Samsung has had seven years of experience with foldables, yet they only adopted this form factor once Apple’s plans leaked. You can argue about who had the tech in their parts bin, but the reality remains that Samsung is following Apple’s lead. It is time to stop being ignorant and biased and look at the reality in front of you. While any company can manufacture a product, the industry consistently follows Apple’s lead; if Apple hadn't committed to the wider foldable design, Samsung never would have adopted it for this generation. You can bank on that.

I don't know nor do I care. If you truly want to know, then why won't you send them and email and ask?

Your speculation is only that. Even if it was true, why do you care. Choice is choice.


It's jot that you care, you're just a troll.


Again I ask this question but you never answer because you know what the answer is. Why is it when Apple is copying you don't come around or say anything?

Apple copy Microsoft, Google and Huawei. Yes? Why aren't you saying anything about that? We already know because you're a Samsung hating shill.

Anyone who calls oit 1 oem and not another isnusually a troll. That's you buddy!

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AltronLivez51
AltronLivez51
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• 1mo ago
↵TuGa121 said:

"So the pixel fold is wide. The Huawei Pura X  is wide. The Surface Duo was wide."

Why did Samsung wait so long to adopt the wider aspect ratio? It’s clear they didn’t care about other manufacturers like Google or Huawei leading the way; they only prioritize Apple. Samsung knew that once Apple committed to a wider design, it would become the market standard, so they pivoted to match that strategy. We’ve seen this pattern before with the Watch Ultra and other design cues—Samsung has had seven years of experience with foldables, yet they only adopted this form factor once Apple’s plans leaked. You can argue about who had the tech in their parts bin, but the reality remains that Samsung is following Apple’s lead. It is time to stop being ignorant and biased and look at the reality in front of you. While any company can manufacture a product, the industry consistently follows Apple’s lead; if Apple hadn't committed to the wider foldable design, Samsung never would have adopted it for this generation. You can bank on that.

I know you don't believe in reading facts. Bit I somply Googled when did Samsjng start working on a wider folding device.

The response was,Samsung has been working on th3m as early as 2013.

The other poems who have such a device, who made the screens foe them? Samsjng didn't just magically make a wider screen. Like everyone else Apple buys the screen from a 3rd party usually Samsung.

Maybe if you wasnt such a Samsjng haying shill who just comes here to troll, bit I stead learned how to actually use a phone and find oit what you want to know, you wouldn't have any problem getting an answer.


Be we all know that's not your purpose.

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TuGa121
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• 1mo ago
↵AltronLivez51 said:

I know you don't believe in reading facts. Bit I somply Googled when did Samsjng start working on a wider folding device.

The response was,Samsung has been working on th3m as early as 2013.

The other poems who have such a device, who made the screens foe them? Samsjng didn't just magically make a wider screen. Like everyone else Apple buys the screen from a 3rd party usually Samsung.

Maybe if you wasnt such a Samsjng haying shill who just comes here to troll, bit I stead learned how to actually use a phone and find oit what you want to know, you wouldn't have any problem getting an answer.


Be we all know that's not your purpose.

I don't have any hate toward Samsung; in fact, I support them more than you do. Have you ever actually owned a Fold series device? I bought the Fold 7, now the 8 Ultra, the top-of-the-line 1TB, 16GB RAM model—you know, the $2,700 one—along with the Galaxy Ring and plenty of other accessories. Please, don't talk about things you have no clue about. All I pointed out was that Samsung had seven previous Fold and Flip models, plus a tri-fold, yet never prioritized a wider aspect ratio until this year. And why is that? Because Apple finally decided to enter the foldable market with a book-style, wide design. It is hard to ignore the patterns here. If Samsung had released a wider foldable last year, it wouldn't have been a big deal, but the timing is just too obvious. We’ve seen this time and again—the Watch Ultra, the new earbuds that mimic Apple’s design, and the S25 edge attempt. Now, with the Galaxy Z Fold 8 moving to a wider aspect ratio, it’s hard not to conclude that Samsung is once again simply following Apple’s lead.

Please stop being so ignorant and see what right in front of your eyes.

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AltronLivez51
AltronLivez51
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• 1mo ago
↵TuGa121 said:

I don't have any hate toward Samsung; in fact, I support them more than you do. Have you ever actually owned a Fold series device? I bought the Fold 7, now the 8 Ultra, the top-of-the-line 1TB, 16GB RAM model—you know, the $2,700 one—along with the Galaxy Ring and plenty of other accessories. Please, don't talk about things you have no clue about. All I pointed out was that Samsung had seven previous Fold and Flip models, plus a tri-fold, yet never prioritized a wider aspect ratio until this year. And why is that? Because Apple finally decided to enter the foldable market with a book-style, wide design. It is hard to ignore the patterns here. If Samsung had released a wider foldable last year, it wouldn't have been a big deal, but the timing is just too obvious. We’ve seen this time and again—the Watch Ultra, the new earbuds that mimic Apple’s design, and the S25 edge attempt. Now, with the Galaxy Z Fold 8 moving to a wider aspect ratio, it’s hard not to conclude that Samsung is once again simply following Apple’s lead.

Please stop being so ignorant and see what right in front of your eyes.

I have not owned, nor do I want to own a Folding phone. They are all overpriced devices that offer no real benefit over stuff i already own.

I do think convergence devices are cool. I've already spent some tome with the Fold 7. I purchase the Flip 5 and 6 for the wife I see the Flip as being the base model S that's just a clamshell.

I think they are cool, but they are somply not practical.

Smartphones are already made from cheap materials that easily get damaged or broken. Buying one that folds where the most fragile part is also the most expensive to repair, is not for me.

I have a Galaxy Tab 9 Ultra. It is the perfect tablet. I have my Surface Book. Whenich also detaches to be a tablet.

Buying a product from a brand, doesn't mean you don't hate them. You know exactly what I mean. You criticize them with no basis whatsoever.

I asked you many times and you never answer. Why is it when Apple copies you don't raise your head and say anything, but as soon as you think Samsung is copying Apple, here you come like a moth to the flame?

No one here is ignoring that Samsung and Apple both influence each other. So what! That just means more choice for us.

Considering what Samsung's device looks like vs what Apple's device is going to look like, the Apple device is ugly, gonna cost even more; going to be less capable too.

I'm not gonna even comment on anything else you see because it doesn't matter. My question is simple. They all copy each other. Why are you so biased thst you only call out one and not the other. Thst is because you are a Samsung hating shill like I said.

Apple was not the 1st to make any of the products you mention. They all were copied from someone else. However, when it comes to devices and form factors, it isn't copying just because someone else made it 1st. All company's follow trends and when they see a gadget that could start a trend or becomes one, they make their own version.

Apple knew company's were making smartphones like the LG Prada and others and Apple rushed to beat them with the iPhone. So what is wrong with others beating Apple? Nothing. You're just biased and hateful because Apple again is getting beaten as per usual.

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AltronLivez51
AltronLivez51
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• 1mo ago
↵Mreveryphone said:

Samsung is thanking Apple for it's success! Every iPhone sold is money in Samsung's pocket! Samsung had this aspect ratio a long time ago with the Note 5... Things take time to develop, for all we know they both got together and collabed on this design... But it's highly unlikely that Samsung was able to get Apples plans, run R&D, and still bet them with a wider design and still make improvements to the other fold/flip and watches...

Samsung and Apple were probably already developing at the same time. Plus it had been rumored 2 Folds ago Samsung was working on a "wider" Fold!




Samsung can't easily buy any product similar and reverse engineer it by taking it apart and seeing what someone else did.

I am sure Samsung saw Apple was making a move and they were too likely considering it. After all they make the screens for those other devices. TuGa is just a shill who only calls out Samsung, hit never Apple.

Every product Apple has ever made was copied from someone else. Every last one of them

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1mo ago
↵AltronLivez51 said:

I have not owned, nor do I want to own a Folding phone. They are all overpriced devices that offer no real benefit over stuff i already own.

I do think convergence devices are cool. I've already spent some tome with the Fold 7. I purchase the Flip 5 and 6 for the wife I see the Flip as being the base model S that's just a clamshell.

I think they are cool, but they are somply not practical.

Smartphones are already made from cheap materials that easily get damaged or broken. Buying one that folds where the most fragile part is also the most expensive to repair, is not for me.

I have a Galaxy Tab 9 Ultra. It is the perfect tablet. I have my Surface Book. Whenich also detaches to be a tablet.

Buying a product from a brand, doesn't mean you don't hate them. You know exactly what I mean. You criticize them with no basis whatsoever.

I asked you many times and you never answer. Why is it when Apple copies you don't raise your head and say anything, but as soon as you think Samsung is copying Apple, here you come like a moth to the flame?

No one here is ignoring that Samsung and Apple both influence each other. So what! That just means more choice for us.

Considering what Samsung's device looks like vs what Apple's device is going to look like, the Apple device is ugly, gonna cost even more; going to be less capable too.

I'm not gonna even comment on anything else you see because it doesn't matter. My question is simple. They all copy each other. Why are you so biased thst you only call out one and not the other. Thst is because you are a Samsung hating shill like I said.

Apple was not the 1st to make any of the products you mention. They all were copied from someone else. However, when it comes to devices and form factors, it isn't copying just because someone else made it 1st. All company's follow trends and when they see a gadget that could start a trend or becomes one, they make their own version.

Apple knew company's were making smartphones like the LG Prada and others and Apple rushed to beat them with the iPhone. So what is wrong with others beating Apple? Nothing. You're just biased and hateful because Apple again is getting beaten as per usual.

I only criticize products after I have personally owned and used them. When I first used the Fold 7, I found the software experience frustrating—not because of Samsung's hardware, but because Google’s OS was poorly optimized for the device at launch. Once Samsung pushed a Bluetooth fix and Google updated Maps, the experience improved significantly, but I hold manufacturers accountable when I spend a premium on their products. I currently own the top-variant Galaxy Z Fold 8 Ultra, and after dropping $2,700, I expect perfection. I don’t favor one brand over the other; I simply believe in calling out issues when a device doesn’t perform up to its price point.

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Mreveryphone
Mreveryphone
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• 1mo ago
↵AltronLivez51 said:

Samsung can't easily buy any product similar and reverse engineer it by taking it apart and seeing what someone else did.

I am sure Samsung saw Apple was making a move and they were too likely considering it. After all they make the screens for those other devices. TuGa is just a shill who only calls out Samsung, hit never Apple.

Every product Apple has ever made was copied from someone else. Every last one of them

Don't be do sure Samsung made a move because of what Apple could be doing... Samsung has had wider Fold prototype's for years

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