Discussion - John Ternus reveals why iPhone Duo was so late and it just makes so much sense to me

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Charlie2k
Charlie2k
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• 12h agoedited

Clearly you have not read Mark Gurmans latest article.


No, Apple being late to the show had nothing to do with some screen coating. Tim Cook became so impressed with all passport style foldables during a trip to China and realized that Apple need to have the same.


https://m.mydrivers.com/newsview/1150611.html

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J2017
J2017
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• 11h ago

Oppo Find N7 released 6 months ago has a less visible crease and they didn't have to resort to crappy matte coating. Look at the crease on the duo 🤣

https://postimg.cc/fVFThLyr


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Jason2k13
Jason2k13
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• 6h ago

I own a Z Fold 8 Ultra, almost everyone at work are iPhone users. Not one of them noticed the crease when I let them use my phone.

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strbckboy
strbckboy
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• 1h ago
↵Charlie2k said:

Clearly you have not read Mark Gurmans latest article.


No, Apple being late to the show had nothing to do with some screen coating. Tim Cook became so impressed with all passport style foldables during a trip to China and realized that Apple need to have the same.


https://m.mydrivers.com/newsview/1150611.html

LOL. Yes…we should believe the leaker over the actual source. Mhmm.

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Nokfan1603
Nokfan1603
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• 45m ago
↵strbckboy said:

LOL. Yes…we should believe the leaker over the actual source. Mhmm.

Yes, of course, better to trust the multi-trillion-dollar company. Ever heard of marketing?

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Nokfan1603
Nokfan1603
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• 25m ago

I have to admit that Apple’s presentation got me too. The “Apple magic” worked on me, especially the beautiful animation when opening the inner display. A few days later, though, after thinking about it a bit more, the magic has made room for reality again. Apple can’t perform miracles either.

Regarding the points in the image above:

  1. Dust resistance: IP68 is certainly a plus, but the Pixel 10 and 11 Pro Fold also have IP68, and in real-world testing the results regarding dust and the hinge have been rather disappointing.
  2. Under-display selfie camera: Yes, it disappears beautifully. The trade-off is that the image quality is significantly worse. That’s not necessarily an advantage.
  3. Less visible crease: The crease may be less noticeable, but the textured display surface also makes the screen look less vibrant to me, especially with photos and video. Again, that’s a trade-off, not simply an improvement.
  4. Better multitasking gestures: That’s subjective. Personally, I would argue that Android’s multitasking on foldables is still clearly better.
  5. Native multi-screen and window-size support: Apple may have a more tightly controlled ecosystem, but the claim that Android foldables are prone to crashing doesn’t match my experience at all. I used a Galaxy Z Fold 5 for a long time and didn’t experience a single crash.
  6. Clever UI design / dock placement: Maybe. But if you naturally hold your phone in your left hand, moving the dock to the other side can actually be a disadvantage.

So I think the interesting question isn’t whether Apple has finally “solved” foldables. It’s how these design decisions will feel after people have actually been using the Duo for some time.

I’m genuinely curious to see what long-term reviews from creators will look like once the initial Apple magic has worn off.

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