Apple suppliers fear iPhone Duo reliability claims are going to crumble

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p51d007
p51d007
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• 1mo ago
↵TuGa121 said:

It’s best to wait until the device is actually released before making these kinds of claims. PhoneArena, your articles feel like clickbait based on nothing but assumptions—and we all know what happens when you assume. You make an ASS out of yourself. Ask the android fan girls they know it best.

"The display on the iphone duo bla bla bla"

Ummm...screen manufactured by SAMSUNG. "oh but it is better" You really think Samsung electronics would allow Apple to have a better screen than what is on THEIR own devices, considering THEY make the screens?

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1mo agoedited
↵p51d007 said:

"The display on the iphone duo bla bla bla"

Ummm...screen manufactured by SAMSUNG. "oh but it is better" You really think Samsung electronics would allow Apple to have a better screen than what is on THEIR own devices, considering THEY make the screens?

It is important to remember that while Samsung manufactures these displays, they are built to Apple’s specific design requirements. If you compare the display technology used in the S25 Ultra versus the iPhone 17 Pro Max, or the S26 Ultra against the iPhone 16 series, you will see that Apple typically gains access to the latest panel materials first. For instance, the M14 material set appeared in the iPhone 15 series well before it reached the Galaxy S26. Apple co-funds and heavily invests in Samsung Display’s production lines to ensure exclusive access to top-tier components. Consequently, with the iPhone 18 series and the iPhone Duo now utilizing the new M16 material, it is highly likely that the Galaxy S27 will adopt this same technology a year later as per PA. From a hardware perspective, Apple’s displays consistently feature more advanced material sets.

Lets ask google......Apple received the M14 screen tech first because Apple co-funds and heavily invests in Samsung Display's cutting-edge production lines to guarantee exclusive access to top-tier components at massive scale. Samsung Electronics (the mobile phone division) often skips these newest materials for its own Galaxy S series to save money and keep profit margins higher

So the answer is YES.

I know fan girls hate when apple has better hardware but dont blame apple blame samsung the manufacturer. Apple have the money thats all samsung needs and then leaves their own customer out to dry for 2 years with old tech they have left over.

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NunoB512
NunoB512
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• 1mo ago
↵TuGa121 said:

It is important to remember that while Samsung manufactures these displays, they are built to Apple’s specific design requirements. If you compare the display technology used in the S25 Ultra versus the iPhone 17 Pro Max, or the S26 Ultra against the iPhone 16 series, you will see that Apple typically gains access to the latest panel materials first. For instance, the M14 material set appeared in the iPhone 15 series well before it reached the Galaxy S26. Apple co-funds and heavily invests in Samsung Display’s production lines to ensure exclusive access to top-tier components. Consequently, with the iPhone 18 series and the iPhone Duo now utilizing the new M16 material, it is highly likely that the Galaxy S27 will adopt this same technology a year later as per PA. From a hardware perspective, Apple’s displays consistently feature more advanced material sets.

Lets ask google......Apple received the M14 screen tech first because Apple co-funds and heavily invests in Samsung Display's cutting-edge production lines to guarantee exclusive access to top-tier components at massive scale. Samsung Electronics (the mobile phone division) often skips these newest materials for its own Galaxy S series to save money and keep profit margins higher

So the answer is YES.

I know fan girls hate when apple has better hardware but dont blame apple blame samsung the manufacturer. Apple have the money thats all samsung needs and then leaves their own customer out to dry for 2 years with old tech they have left over.

We can go to Tuga's favorite phone ratings site DoxMark and look at the display rankings and take our conclusion when was the last time an iPhone beat a Samsung device (and not solely the Ultra) in ranks. Spoiler alert it's not even close. The reason why sometimes Samsung doesn't include the latest not the best displays it's because of the availability of such displays, the S series releases early in January/February and Samsung Display doesn't have the latest available at such time, but they tweak the latest available to meet or even outperform the latest just like we saw on the S26 series...

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ijuanp03
ijuanp03
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• 1mo ago

And this is why defaulting to a matte screen on a maintstream device will backfire. I personally enjoy matte screen which I put on my smartphones but that's only me. The people around me aren't fan of it and they make fun of me for wanting a screen to look hazy.


So yes, the backlash is valid. Apple deserves it. Consumers should not suffer just for Apple to prove they are better by using a matte display to hide the crease.

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bitwiser1
bitwiser1
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• 1mo agoedited
↵TuGa121 said:

As long as it doesn't bend like the Pixel 11 Fold, we should be fine. That SH!T snapped like a twig.

It is a folding phone that is half as thin as a normal phone...with a hinge. it will fold and break just like every other foldable. Just don't fold your phone backwards and you will be fine. Don't be like Jerry.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1mo agoedited
↵NunoB512 said:

We can go to Tuga's favorite phone ratings site DoxMark and look at the display rankings and take our conclusion when was the last time an iPhone beat a Samsung device (and not solely the Ultra) in ranks. Spoiler alert it's not even close. The reason why sometimes Samsung doesn't include the latest not the best displays it's because of the availability of such displays, the S series releases early in January/February and Samsung Display doesn't have the latest available at such time, but they tweak the latest available to meet or even outperform the latest just like we saw on the S26 series...

Another fan girl that when google goes his way its correct but when it does not google is wrong.

Like i said the m14 is better than the m13 and s26u is the only samsung s series with the m14 tech.

The iPhone 17 Pro Max uses the better underlying hardware panel, while the Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra offers a better real-world viewing experience due to its superior outer glass layer.


The Hardware Panel: iPhone 17 Pro Max Wins

  • Samsung M14 OLED Panel: Ironically, Samsung manufactures the display panels for both phones, but it supplied Apple with its absolute best option—the M14 material stack.
  • Better Efficiency & Lifespan: The M14 panel on the iPhone 17 Pro Max uses advanced materials that make it 20% to 30% more power-efficient and prolong the screen's overall lifespan.
  • Higher Peak Brightness: Thanks to this newer hardware, the iPhone 17 Pro Max panel achieves a higher outdoor peak brightness of 3,000 nits, compared to 2,600 nits on the S25 Ultra.

The outer glass layer is what give the m13 panel better view not the panel itself once again let me know if you still dont understand i can brake it down even more. Or are you a typical fan girl and say google gemini is wrong ? i can also draw you a picture. Ignorant fan girls man i tell you.

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NunoB512
NunoB512
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• 1mo ago
↵TuGa121 said:

Another fan girl that when google goes his way its correct but when it does not google is wrong.

Like i said the m14 is better than the m13 and s26u is the only samsung s series with the m14 tech.

The iPhone 17 Pro Max uses the better underlying hardware panel, while the Samsung Galaxy S25 Ultra offers a better real-world viewing experience due to its superior outer glass layer.


The Hardware Panel: iPhone 17 Pro Max Wins

  • Samsung M14 OLED Panel: Ironically, Samsung manufactures the display panels for both phones, but it supplied Apple with its absolute best option—the M14 material stack.
  • Better Efficiency & Lifespan: The M14 panel on the iPhone 17 Pro Max uses advanced materials that make it 20% to 30% more power-efficient and prolong the screen's overall lifespan.
  • Higher Peak Brightness: Thanks to this newer hardware, the iPhone 17 Pro Max panel achieves a higher outdoor peak brightness of 3,000 nits, compared to 2,600 nits on the S25 Ultra.

The outer glass layer is what give the m13 panel better view not the panel itself once again let me know if you still dont understand i can brake it down even more. Or are you a typical fan girl and say google gemini is wrong ? i can also draw you a picture. Ignorant fan girls man i tell you.

Actually, looking at the top 10 display rankings on the site you frequently cite, the iPhone doesn't even break into the list. If we’re going to debate this, let’s stick to the facts rather than resorting to baseless hate. If you want to be more factual and credible, search for when Samsung releases new displays each year, and you will see that the S series releases earlier, making it impossible for them to have the latest most of the time.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1mo agoedited
↵NunoB512 said:

Actually, looking at the top 10 display rankings on the site you frequently cite, the iPhone doesn't even break into the list. If we’re going to debate this, let’s stick to the facts rather than resorting to baseless hate. If you want to be more factual and credible, search for when Samsung releases new displays each year, and you will see that the S series releases earlier, making it impossible for them to have the latest most of the time.

If you are going to claim that Google and PhoneArena are wrong, how can you rely on them as sources to support your own argument?

You are contradicting yourself. You told me earlier that Google is unreliable, yet now you are directing me to use Google to verify your claims. Don't you see the inconsistency in your argument?

Once again ignorance and fan girl behavior.

One more time see if it syncs.

The iPhone 17 Pro Max uses newer display hardware than the Samsung S25 Ultra, even though Samsung manufactures the panels for both. [1]


M13 vs. M14 Display Hardware

  • M14 Panel (iPhone 17 Pro Max): Apple uses Samsung’s advanced M14 OLED material set. This generation provides roughly 20% to 30% higher peak brightness and improved power efficiency over older components.
  • M13 Panel (Samsung S25 Ultra): Samsung equips its own flagship S25 Ultra with a variation of the previous-generation M13 technology. [1, 2, 3]


Why the iPhone's Panel is Considered Better (and Trade-offs)

  • Higher Peak Brightness: The iPhone 17 Pro Max reaches up to 3,000 nits of peak outdoor brightness, outperforming the S25 Ultra’s 2,600 nits.
  • Material Efficiency: The newer M14 organic materials emit light more efficiently, drawing less power at comparable brightness levels.


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NunoB512
NunoB512
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• 1mo agoedited
↵TuGa121 said:

If you are going to claim that Google and PhoneArena are wrong, how can you rely on them as sources to support your own argument?

You are contradicting yourself. You told me earlier that Google is unreliable, yet now you are directing me to use Google to verify your claims. Don't you see the inconsistency in your argument?

Once again ignorance and fan girl behavior.

One more time see if it syncs.

The iPhone 17 Pro Max uses newer display hardware than the Samsung S25 Ultra, even though Samsung manufactures the panels for both. [1]


M13 vs. M14 Display Hardware

  • M14 Panel (iPhone 17 Pro Max): Apple uses Samsung’s advanced M14 OLED material set. This generation provides roughly 20% to 30% higher peak brightness and improved power efficiency over older components.
  • M13 Panel (Samsung S25 Ultra): Samsung equips its own flagship S25 Ultra with a variation of the previous-generation M13 technology. [1, 2, 3]


Why the iPhone's Panel is Considered Better (and Trade-offs)

  • Higher Peak Brightness: The iPhone 17 Pro Max reaches up to 3,000 nits of peak outdoor brightness, outperforming the S25 Ultra’s 2,600 nits.
  • Material Efficiency: The newer M14 organic materials emit light more efficiently, drawing less power at comparable brightness levels.


Who is talking about Google? I am talking about your favorite site, the one you mention on here all the time when it is convenient for you. Please see below: https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/#sort-display. Could you please clarify exactly where Apple currently ranks in terms of display quality? As I’ve mentioned, they consistently fall short in independent performance testing—and that holds true even when comparing their Pro models against Samsung’s non-Ultra devices.

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1mo agoedited
↵NunoB512 said:

Who is talking about Google? I am talking about your favorite site, the one you mention on here all the time when it is convenient for you. Please see below: https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/#sort-display. Could you please clarify exactly where Apple currently ranks in terms of display quality? As I’ve mentioned, they consistently fall short in independent performance testing—and that holds true even when comparing their Pro models against Samsung’s non-Ultra devices.

You are changing subject again. I just replied to you again with facts from google apple uses better hardware made by samsung. But since were at phone arena lets see you run from this question what device has better cameras ? Because DXO shows apple does you dont even break top 10. So are you going to say PA said samsung has better cameras? Get my point you look for where it interests you better.

So answer the question since you at DXO what device has better cameras ? Ill wait. im sure you will run AGAIN as usual.

Here is hint.

https://www.dxomark.com/smartphones/#sort-camera

Answer that question and ill continue t answer yours . Also i would still like the answer to my other question. why is google and PhoneArena credible when they have a report against apple but not against sammsung ? Ill wait.

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