Discussion - T-Mobile, AT&T, and Verizon customers are cheering on America’s fourth possible major carrier

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DrakoSwiftclaw
DrakoSwiftclaw
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• 2mo ago
↵DrakoSwiftclaw said:

Honestly, the DOJ and the FCC never fully walked away from the idea of having FOUR carriers in the US -- and the waivers granted for a "hybrid network" that uses cell towers and satellites, along with other rule changes, seems to indicate the DOJ and FCC would gladly accept a D2D provider to become that 4th carrier.


To top that off, everyone forgot that Echostar (Boost) WAS building out their network and it WAS online for 75-80% of the population before they sold the spectrum to Starlink and ATT (both have 3-5 years to essentially finish the builds) -- and now Echostar's Dish Wireless (minus Boost) is in chapter 11, offering the ENTIRE network (which is still installed) along with all permits and uninstalled gear up for super cheap auction.


So SpaceX could essentially "build" it's own network on the cheap by buying up those towers and getting leases with the tower companies. And since those tower were programmed for the spectrum ATT/SpaceX bought SpaceX could go "full neutral" and get a low band lease with ATT, update those towers OTA, and have the entire network online within a month. (Solving the build deadlines for both carriers essentially overnight.)

SpaceX could also pick up the entire estate, extend the permits and use the hardware that wasn't installed to scale up and begin finishing what Echostar started -- and they can do it rather quickly.

If SpaceX tried to buy one of the Big 3, they'd be blocked in a heartbeat.

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Seashore66
Seashore66
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• 2mo ago
↵joshgrigs said:

Anyone who thinks they'll be taken seriously using the acronym TDS is laughable. You're supporting a pedophile and a rapist. Plus, we're talking about Musk here (a known Nazi sympathizer and transphobe) not your lord and savior who's probably actively s**tting his pants as we speak.

More made up nonsense from mommy’s basement. Go away little boy. Let us adults talk now 🤡🤡

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DrakoSwiftclaw
DrakoSwiftclaw
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• 2mo ago
↵mloudt said:

Grain management bought 800 spectrum dish cldnt afford it at time. Elon shld of bought all of Echostar and built boost network out instead of just sum spectrum then sold off parts he didn't need later.

I'm aware, but the kicker:

Grain is now leasing that spectrum to a D2D company and ATT can lease the 600 Mhz (which is what those towers were setup for initially and ATT apparently was planning on using MOCN using the Dish towers to solve their build requirements, but Echostar pivoted to shut it off.)

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The_Opposition
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• 2mo ago
↵Mallandyrr said:

No. It is not. Downsizing the government bureaucracy saves taxpayer money that can be used for better things. Like tax reductions. I am sure you also believe that keeping the illegal immigrants is a viable solution. It’s not. There is a direct correlation between illegal immigration, inflation and housing costs. Not to mention blue states inability to keep their budget balanced. Illinois has run out of money every single year for as long as I can remember. And so has New York and California. All because they prioritize illegal immigrants over citizens.

Illegal immigrants are the least of our worries. How about we go after home grown domestic terrorism instead of invoking another "the other" enemy again? oh right, they only punch down on easy targets. second of all, the blue states subsidize the red states. you really wouldn't like if they "kept their budget balanced". you'd have none of their scraps.

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The_Opposition
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• 2mo ago
↵Mallandyrr said:

And I am sure you suffer from TDS as well. What part of more competition is better for consumers do you not understand?

Didn't mention him, not sure why he's on your mind.

And no, having competition from a "at best is questionable" billionaire is not a net good by default.

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Seashore66
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• 2mo ago
↵The_Opposition said:

Illegal immigrants are the least of our worries. How about we go after home grown domestic terrorism instead of invoking another "the other" enemy again? oh right, they only punch down on easy targets. second of all, the blue states subsidize the red states. you really wouldn't like if they "kept their budget balanced". you'd have none of their scraps.

Blue states subsidized red states?? In what world??

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Watkins
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• 2mo ago
↵The_Opposition said:

Illegal immigrants are the least of our worries. How about we go after home grown domestic terrorism instead of invoking another "the other" enemy again? oh right, they only punch down on easy targets. second of all, the blue states subsidize the red states. you really wouldn't like if they "kept their budget balanced". you'd have none of their scraps.

The least of our worries? You speak of watching out for home grown terrorism, how many do you think got into the country when that border was opened and 15 undocumented illegals crossed? You know how much that whole fiasco cost US tax dollars? 150 BILLION. So yeah, don't ever speak about balancing the budget, home grown terrorism or anything political. You have been brainwashed.

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Watkins
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• 2mo ago
↵Danarchy said:

I will take "Things That Never Happened" for a thousand, Alex. The fragility of the younger generations is sad to observe

You should probably get out more and get off social media. Might help change your perspective.

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fatTony
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• 2mo ago
↵Mallandyrr said:

And I am sure you suffer from TDS as well. What part of more competition is better for consumers do you not understand?

Don't care for the politics and name calling, but are you saying more competition at any cost?

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