Discussion - Secret iPhone Ultra weapon could end the Fold 8's victory lap

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TuGa121
TuGa121
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• 1mo ago

It is frustrating when Samsung removes features like S-Pen support from their foldables. If Apple actually delivers an iPhone Ultra that includes a stylus, it would be a major selling point. A foldable device with ipad-like Ios, integrated stylus support feels like the ultimate productivity tool—what else could you possibly need?

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AltronLivez51
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• 1mo ago
↵TuGa121 said:

It is frustrating when Samsung removes features like S-Pen support from their foldables. If Apple actually delivers an iPhone Ultra that includes a stylus, it would be a major selling point. A foldable device with ipad-like Ios, integrated stylus support feels like the ultimate productivity tool—what else could you possibly need?

According to what i could find, the S-Pen support was removed from thr Fold 7, because the device was too thin to support the technology.

The Pen Samsjng uses is license from WACOM who at the time, did not have a substrate for the display thin enough to meet the new phone design.

Unlike capacitive touch screens thst can use any pen, WACOM uses a magnetic solution which if the digitizer is too then, it won't work. It n also likely won't work with the Titanium panel inside the latest model.

Since the solution is metal, it can't be close to other me t as inside the pjone without being shielded which add ani t her layer too.

I do agree 100% with you that it is frustrating when Samsung removes features. Th3 fact they removed sdcard support from the premium models while still having it on cheap models is disturbing

Especially because they could have solved it by either working to make a faster controller for it, or replacing it with a separate storage chip.

I don't think the folding iPhone coming with a pen would change anything. The problem with the device is gonna be its size. The design is terrible vs other available solutions. The Pixel Fold is the best looking device and at least it is a full sized device like the Fold 7 or 8.

The shorter devicebis cool for movies as the letterboxing isn't as bad.

The only thing going for Apple device is their are fabatics who want a foldable, but don't wanna jump ship for it.

I think basically it will just run iPad apps with some design changes to the app pages so it fits. But all iPad Mini apps will fit fine.

The biggest issue I think is gonna be price. The fact it will cost more than their MacBook, it needs to be more than just an iPad that folds in half.

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houseofcortez
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• 1mo ago

If they did a similar implementation like the Surface Duo 2 it could work without getting in the way but it's very unlikely this will come to pass.

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p51d007
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• 1mo ago

With a mohs scale of hardness of 2, how the heck is a stylus going to work without SCRATCHING the screen? It would have to be RUBBER tipped and those things don't work as well as the harder tipped stylus.

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pimpin83z
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• 1mo ago
↵TuGa121 said:

It is frustrating when Samsung removes features like S-Pen support from their foldables. If Apple actually delivers an iPhone Ultra that includes a stylus, it would be a major selling point. A foldable device with ipad-like Ios, integrated stylus support feels like the ultimate productivity tool—what else could you possibly need?

"A foldable device with ipad-like Ios, integrated stylus support feels like the ultimate productivity tool—what else could you possibly need?"


It doesn't even need to include a stylus; just Pencil support. If that happens then the real question would be would the iFold take away from IPad sales, specifically the iPad Mini.

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nikcal
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• 1mo ago
↵p51d007 said:

With a mohs scale of hardness of 2, how the heck is a stylus going to work without SCRATCHING the screen? It would have to be RUBBER tipped and those things don't work as well as the harder tipped stylus.

I've got a magic v6 with the pen. It's got a hard plastic tip and I've used it daily for a couple months now without a single mark on the inner screen. I think when you see Jerry leaving marks with his fingernail it's deformation of the screen rather than a scratch. Don't lean unrealistically hard on the screen and it's fine.

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PatrickH0rne
PatrickH0rne
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• 1mo ago

Have there ever been more articles about a vaporware phone in the history of phones? Two articles today on PA featuring a phone that doesn't exist for the thousandth time. 😳



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p51d007
p51d007
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• 1mo ago
↵nikcal said:

I've got a magic v6 with the pen. It's got a hard plastic tip and I've used it daily for a couple months now without a single mark on the inner screen. I think when you see Jerry leaving marks with his fingernail it's deformation of the screen rather than a scratch. Don't lean unrealistically hard on the screen and it's fine.

Yeah, but the problem is, this is something NEW for Apple, and we all know the first time someone scratches the screen, the "web" will pick it up and run with it.

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R1ftt
R1ftt
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• 1mo ago

"Be bold" OH my deluded summer child, Apple hasn't been bold since the iPhone 5.

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AltronLivez51
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• 1mo ago
↵pimpin83z said:

"A foldable device with ipad-like Ios, integrated stylus support feels like the ultimate productivity tool—what else could you possibly need?"


It doesn't even need to include a stylus; just Pencil support. If that happens then the real question would be would the iFold take away from IPad sales, specifically the iPad Mini.

The iPad Mini will be cheaper, thus it should sell more on that alone. If I had to guess, Apple's device will start at likely $2499, with a 1TB version for over $3000+. This vs an iPad Mini or any iPad for that matter.


Apple will probably only make 250,000 of them and then try to make artificial demand by making everyone go run out to buy it so they can brag and say it sold out and the next orders will be delayed a few weeks or a month.

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