Discussion - Claude is secretly watermarking your text, and it is almost impossible to remove

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Scarecrow
Scarecrow
Arena Apprentice
• 1mo ago

How do you watermark text? If it's a Word or Google doc, it could add all sorts of invisible crud. But they claim it's part of the text itself and survives copy/paste, even editing.


I am skeptical.

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IgnobleNobility
IgnobleNobility
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• 1mo agoedited

So all the AI-dependent would-be writer must do to remove the watermark is this: screenshot the AI-generated text, use an Optical Character Recognition app to open that screenshot and generate its own copy of the text, copy and paste that text into a new document, save it, and no more invisible indelible AI watermark. Will take about thirty seconds.

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eric_sklaros
eric_sklaros
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• 1mo ago
↵IgnobleNobility said:

So all the AI-dependent would-be writer must do to remove the watermark is this: screenshot the AI-generated text, use an Optical Character Recognition app to open that screenshot and generate its own copy of the text, copy and paste that text into a new document, save it, and no more invisible indelible AI watermark. Will take about thirty seconds.

Er, this is not a visible watermark, that should be very clear. Since the only way to remove it is through heavy text alteration, it's clearly a pattern generated through the placement and spacing of characters and punctuation.

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tokuzumi
tokuzumi
Arena Master
• 1mo ago

Paste into Notepad, check for odd text, delete, copy the rest, paste into word editor.

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IgnobleNobility
IgnobleNobility
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• 1mo ago
↵eric_sklaros said:

Er, this is not a visible watermark, that should be very clear. Since the only way to remove it is through heavy text alteration, it's clearly a pattern generated through the placement and spacing of characters and punctuation.

And running the text through an OCR program to read that text would strip all this fancy formatting out.

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Waxon
Waxon
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• 1mo ago
↵tokuzumi said:

Paste into Notepad, check for odd text, delete, copy the rest, paste into word editor.

It's like a cipher weaved into the text, if I say "Do you want to go to england or france" you know if there are blank or blank it generates maybe if x number of times whenever you have OR it can select to mark it that the first letter of the first option england in this case is alphabetical order from france. Except like way more complicated to where you have all this non impacting micro decisions for grammar and order and punctuation that add up to say, this was made by claude by anything trying to decipher it as a claude product. No way to strip it out without knowing the algorithm.

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eric_sklaros
eric_sklaros
Arena Apprentice
• 1mo ago
↵IgnobleNobility said:

And running the text through an OCR program to read that text would strip all this fancy formatting out.

Nope. As mentioned by another commenter above, it's a cipher, one that will retain its integrity unless the text itself is edited.

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IgnobleNobility
IgnobleNobility
Arena Apprentice
• 1mo agoedited
↵eric_sklaros said:

Nope. As mentioned by another commenter above, it's a cipher, one that will retain its integrity unless the text itself is edited.

So if it's invisible but I take a screenshot of that text, which includes everything visible yet not invisible "ciphers" what happens to that invisible cipher once I take my screenshot? It's not there anymore.

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